Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: Gaudreau Wants, Deserves More Than Monahan

It'll be interesting to see if he gets more than Gio as I think the Flames brass have him kind of as their benchmark. Hopefully we see soon.

I agree he deserves more.

It's the Medias that try to make him look bad.

The guy is two years older and the fact of the matter is, his production is better than Monahan.

I understand him to want more money.

$7milion per but for what term ? It's all about the term isn't it ? If they could lock him up for 8 years, that would be a smoking deal. I suspect that because he's 23, maybe he's looking to be UFA in 6 ? Just a guess but that would make sense so he can cash in on one more big contract.

He does deserve more because he makes Sean Monahan a better player and inflates his numbers somewhat, that being said, Monahan is still a really solid center!

Three reasons for Gaudreau to get less than 7 mil per:

Gaudreau's home production is significantly higher than away from the Saddledome. Who's to say if he were to play in another city this trend wouldn't continue. He needs Calgary just as much as Calgary needs him.

Monahan had arbitration rights, Gaudreau does not. That's a big bargaining chip off the table.

Finally. Management has treated Gaudreau like a superstar and cultivated his talent in a unique way. Remember three seasons ago? They signed him to his first ELC before the last game of the season. Thus burning a year on his contract. Do you think they needed him for that one game? It was purely for his own development.

In the end it's hard to say what Gaudreau is even worth. Treleving was talking about comparing the market for Monahan, but who can you compare Gaudreau to?

I'd rather sign him for 7$ for 7-8 years then sign him to 6.5 for 5-6 I'm sure that's what they are negotiating. I'm predicting a 7 year deal at 6.8

Gaudreau won't make less than 7 mil per year.....book it.

OG5

Gaudreau won't make less than 7 mil per year.....book it.

OG5
- The-O-G

Agreed. I think it'll be 7.5

Agreed. I think it'll be 7.5
- Clyde334

Yeah it might even be that high.....people who think it'll be below 7 are related to BigErn!

Yeah it might even be that high.....people who think it'll be below 7 are related to BigErn!
- The-O-G

You see Ek saying that the Habs are talking to the Flames??

JG was 6th in NHL scoring his second year in the NHL...if he is giving up UFA years he needs to be paid. Deal is 7+ for sure

Three reasons for Gaudreau to get less than 7 mil per:

Gaudreau's home production is significantly higher than away from the Saddledome. Who's to say if he were to play in another city this trend wouldn't continue. He needs Calgary just as much as Calgary needs him.

Monahan had arbitration rights, Gaudreau does not. That's a big bargaining chip off the table.

Finally. Management has treated Gaudreau like a superstar and cultivated his talent in a unique way. Remember three seasons ago? They signed him to his first ELC before the last game of the season. Thus burning a year on his contract. Do you think they needed him for that one game? It was purely for his own development.

In the end it's hard to say what Gaudreau is even worth. Treleving was talking about comparing the market for Monahan, but who can you compare Gaudreau to?
- Ned_Wrecks

They gave him that deal to get him signed...had they not he could have gone UFA the next year like other college players. That was the only reason and the only thing they could offer him that other teams couldn't

Let's face it, Johnny puts bums in seats. He'll be the face of the franchise and will sell jerseys everywhere in North America. His off ice commitment is huge and he's going to get paid for it. No offense to Mony or Gio, but they're not in the same league as far as marketability. I think it'll be just under $8 on 7 years and that will be a bargain.

You see Ek saying that the Habs are talking to the Flames??
- Clyde334

Why do they want Wodeman? More importantly, what are they going to give up for him?

Three reasons for Gaudreau to get less than 7 mil per:

Gaudreau's home production is significantly higher than away from the Saddledome. Who's to say if he were to play in another city this trend wouldn't continue. He needs Calgary just as much as Calgary needs him.

Monahan had arbitration rights, Gaudreau does not. That's a big bargaining chip off the table.

Finally. Management has treated Gaudreau like a superstar and cultivated his talent in a unique way. Remember three seasons ago? They signed him to his first ELC before the last game of the season. Thus burning a year on his contract. Do you think they needed him for that one game? It was purely for his own development.

In the end it's hard to say what Gaudreau is even worth. Treleving was talking about comparing the market for Monahan, but who can you compare Gaudreau to?

The bolded above is a really weird statement - you were on the right path with the statement before and then went completely off the rails. Gaudreau is a better HOME player than AWAY player, for the very likely reason that the home team can better control the matchups. Going against 3rd pairing dmen and lesser forwards will definitely help.

Gaudreau also had the Flames over a barrel when they signed him - Hobey Baker award winner with off the charts skill, had he gone to FA, there would have been a bidding war to put Vesey/Schultz to shame. I am certain that part of the negotitions included burning the first year of the ELC so he had more control. That's a smart move, and low risk to the Flames in my opinion. Had he been a bust, no harm, no foul by burning year 1, and turning into the superstar he is, you are going to have to pay him no matter what, so there is really little difference in my opinion as to whether that's in 2016 or in 2017.

At this point it's fair to say that JG is going to get paid more, which he and all of us seem to understand, the Flames want to limit that difference, which I think we all understand and they are continuing to negotiate, which we all understand.

I would love to have seen these two sign together a la Toews and Kane, I think they are that important to one another's game and represent the next decade of Flames hockey, but c'est la vie - it will get done, and the closer we get to the regular season, I think the less control JG will have over the process.

Why do they want Wodeman? More importantly, what are they going to give up for him?
- TandA4Flames

No kidding!

Why do they want Wodeman? More importantly, what are they going to give up for him?
- TandA4Flames

Doesn't sound like theyre super excited about their defensive depth. Greg Pateryn in their line-up to start the season does indeed seem to suck balls.

Also, they took a pretty hard hit when Petry got injured last season. They might be looking for a bit of insurance.

God knows what we're asking for in return..

Byron.

Doesn't sound like theyre super excited about their defensive depth. Greg Pateryn in their line-up to start the season does indeed seem to suck balls.

Also, they took a pretty hard hit when Petry got injured last season. They might be looking for a bit of insurance.

God knows what we're asking for in return..

Byron.
- fry

6th rounder and we drop the entire cap hit. If we keep cap in any scenario where Wideman moves, we should get something decent

Is he prone to an offer sheet? If so I am surprised no one has gone that route yet.

What would it take to get McCarron from them? Big fwd, like 6'5" or something over 210lbs, that plays C and RW with a right shot?

What would it take to get McCarron from them? Big fwd, like 6'5" or something over 210lbs, that plays C and RW with a right shot?
- TandA4Flames

He sure was popping into rumours last year..

Bouma and Pourier perhaps? They already traded a 6'5" Center for a less producing, checking winger with an edge. And Pourier; well he's french.

He's 238lbs.

Is he prone to an offer sheet? If so I am surprised no one has gone that route yet.
- waitforawhistle

No, he's not offer sheet eligible.

No, he's not offer sheet eligible.
- tincup

this is correct...although he played one game and started his ELC that is not counted as a "year of service" in the NHL so he only has 2 years of service thus is not eligible.

What would it take to get McCarron from them? Big fwd, like 6'5" or something over 210lbs, that plays C and RW with a right shot?
- TandA4Flames

with the expansion draft coming up. I think we could make a play for coyle or even jenner....jenner I think would be worth going for with a strong set of picks...even backland.

coyle would fill a much needed bigger body RW spot

with jenner Bennet could go to LW.

JG/Money/??
Bennet/Jenner/tchachuk.

wow. even with that 1st RW open. hard working second line that good put up numbers